i pledge allegiance

do we really have a country any more

want does it mean to fight and die for america

what are school kids pledging allegiance to exactly

seems to me multinational corporations trump citizenship

anybody who thinks massive illegal immigration was an accident and not a design is either woefully mis informed or a fool

---- from the WSJ

* OCTOBER 30, 2009

Chinese-Made Turbines to Fill U.S. Wind Farm

By REBECCA SMITH

A Chinese wind-turbine company, with financing help from Beijing, has struck a deal to be the exclusive supplier to one of the largest wind-farm developments in the U.S., a sign of how Chinese firms are aggressively capitalizing on America's clean-energy push.

The 36,000-acre development in West Texas would receive $1.5 billion in financing through Export-Import Bank of China. Shenyang Power Group, a five-month-old alliance, would supply the project with 240 of its 2.5-megawatt wind turbines, among the biggest made in the world.

Chinese-Made Turbines to Fill U.S. Wind Farm - WSJ.com

third party or third rail

Crazyv

why vote against all dems and repubs

whats to stop a candidate from "false flag" operations

we have to choose candidates individually

party affiliation should be made irrelevant (see constitution regarding house of representatives rules of operation)

there are only 5 issues
4
we should let nothing else divide us

1 accept campaign money only from registered voters in your district

2 uphold the constitution

3 vote the will of the people in your district

4 abolish the federal reserve

5 pass a balanced budget amendment

(as for difference we may have on energy, abortion, war, transportation etc...see number 3 above...represent the will of the people (voters citizens individual persons...in your district))

platform for a new centrist party

mock turtle (profile) wrote on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 7:18 am

ive been advocating, across the tubz, the idea of a third party, for a long time

possible platform that could be acceptable to the left and the right

accept campaign contributions only up to $20

accept campaign contributions from individuals only not corporations

accept only campaign contributions from citizens within your congressional district not people from other congressional districts and especially not from other states

we share our opinions honestly with the electorate but

BUT as candidates for the house of representatives we agree to represent the popular will of our constituency whether we individually agree with it or not...one exception the constitution is not supject to political whim

we back the constitution and especially the bill of rights

we dont give in to fear and we dont accept violations of the 8th and 5th amendment (torture), warrant less searches, 4th, self incrimination (5th), we dont let them disarm law abiding citizens (2nd) etc

the house of representatives was supposed to be 'the peoples house" and originally 35,000 people were represented by one congressman...

today... almost a million people per congressional district and this is by design to require corporate financial backing to get the money to run such a large campaign

so one of our first acts is to double the number of congress men and women in the house of representatives

congress halted the growth with the passage of a bill, and now we can increase the number of representatives...no constitutional amendment required

balanced budget constitutional amendment and the end of the federal reserve with appropriate powers passed to the treasury of the united states

the chinese are our friends, right?

nation building in afghanistan

now theres a dandy idea

almost as easy as turning a house of prostitution into a nunnery

of course we have to do this to deny AQ a sanctuary...not like AQ cant melt into saudi, sudan, eritrea or any other forsaken place

now wait...dont ask china to help tame afghanistan...they only live next door

and cant you see hu just gettin all cozy and huggy with osama...warms my heart just to think about it

hold on china... well do it for ya... cause you know

we got all those excess reserves and that positive current accounts..

WAF'd

ill give you a hint ....first two words... we...are...

to cut or not to tax that is the question

crazyv wrote 10:22 am

"It is tiresome to hear people complain about this tax or that without offering any specifics about where they would cut spending...."

true good point

heres my contribution

cut madicare part D...was an unfunded give away to seniors without a tax passed to support the program (in an election year)
and does more damage to the budget than either social security or regular medicare

get that more damage than either

second

usa has over 850 military bases around the world

cost of empire

why do we still occupy germany and japan?,,,nearly 90 bases in japan alone

cut the number of foreign bases in half..we dont need em

one us navy carrier group is capable of projecting more military power and destruction than any country could ever hope to take and live

clawbacks and crumbs from the table

the pay czar talks clawbacks indeed

too little too late

goldman might not exist today if it were not for the US gov bailing out AIG and the likes

there were many many billions of flow thru dollars from taxpayers to AIG to goldman, sogen and deutch

paulsons bankstas at goldman should be subject to clawback, and then prison but that wont happen

why

because while libertarians, who in many ways i admire

cant stomach the idea of a "bank of the united states of america."..owned by "we the people" who protect systemic risk and therefore should be first in line to benefit..

so what do we get instead

we get a federal reserve system, hey, yeah, thats not socialism is it

nope

owned and operated by, with ,and for, the benefit of the oligarchical elite

yea no socialism there

now dont we feel better

a country that subcontracts its currency, is not a country..we are toast

a country that subcontracts the duties of its army to private ownership is toast

hi blackwater, caci ,triple canopy, etc

see the trend?

only in God we trust

Big Rebound in Existing-Home Sales Shows First-Time Buyer Momentum
Washington, October 23, 2009

http://www.realtor.org/press_room/news_releases/2009/10/rebound_shows

"Existing-home sales bounced back strongly in September with first-time buyers driving much of the activity, marking five gains in the past six months, according to the National Association of Realtors®."

ha ha ha ha ha NAR propaganda aided and abetted by the fed gov 8k tax credit for first time new home buyers...just demand being pulled forward

in a war with crony capitalism truth is the first casualty

i dont trust NARs numbers
i dont trust the dow
i dont trust the gold prices on the nymex
the price of oil was plainly manipulated during the commodities bubble
the UE numbers touted, emphasize insured workers and gloss over million who are UE
the value of the dollar is manipulated and toasted right before our eyes
and questions?

free money or legal thievery using debt as a six shooter

private equity firms used highly leveraged debt
to buy a name brand firm
plunge that company into debt
pay the private equity partners huge sums for ruining, i mean running the company
meanwhile wall street got big bucks for securitizing the deal
and then before the company seemed too ravaged and damaged
the company is sold to another private equity firm
with more debt, fees paid to wall street and another round of looting
from the new york times

"Simmons says it will soon file for bankruptcy protection, as part of an agreement by its current owners to sell the company — the seventh time it has been sold in a little more than two decades — all after being owned for short periods by a parade of different investment groups, known as private equity firms, which try to buy undervalued companies, mostly with borrowed money.

For many of the company’s investors, the sale will be a disaster. Its bondholders alone stand to lose more than $575 million. The company’s downfall has also devastated employees like Noble Rogers, who worked for 22 years at Simmons, most of that time at a factory outside Atlanta. He is one of 1,000 employees — more than one-quarter of the work force — laid off last year.

But Thomas H. Lee Partners of Boston has not only escaped unscathed, it has made a profit. The investment firm, which bought Simmons in 2003, has pocketed around $77 million in profit, even as the company’s fortunes have declined. THL collected hundreds of millions of dollars from the company in the form of special dividends. It also paid itself millions more in fees, first for buying the company, then for helping run it. Last year, the firm even gave itself a small raise."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html